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If ANYONE has the Black Sleeping Beauty JSK (shirred) and is willing to sell it, I am more than happy to pay over what you spent on it (if you're happy to let me get the funds together :P which should be by next friday). I realise that occasionally they pop up on Y!Japan etc, but frankly using Y!japan/celga etc confuses the ass out of me...Alternatively if anyone lives in japan, and happens to see one in Closet Child, again I will happily reimburse and pay for your trouble...I was friggin heartbroken when I got to the site tonight and it was sold out (perhaps it has been sold out awhile and I just haven't noticed - I am unobservant like that).

I can't do trades, alas, because I have nothing of worth except some crappy Kstar stuff.

On to the queries...

Are BIGFATBOOTS an automatic NO with lolita? I ask because i'm sure i've seen pictures of EGLs in Japan wearing huge black not-particularly-delicate boots, and I personally do like the foofy-skirt-with-huge-boots thing...but i'm just not sure. The boots in question that I have thought of pairing with an EGL outfit are these.

The other query was, are stripey socks also an auto-no? Is this a contentious issue? Whats your opinion? Which outfits do they look good with, and which do they look yucky with?

And final query - where's a good place online to buy loli blouses that AREN'T brand-name, and are reasonably cheap? Somewhere to buy cutsews too would be nice. I do intend to save up for brand stuff, but I am poor :( - if anyone has any pretty tees/cutsews/blouses for sale PIMP THEM TO ME HERE!

That is all <3

Date: 2006-09-21 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmila.livejournal.com
The black one has been sold out for a long time. I know how you feel. I wanted the one in pink so bad and was lucky enough to get it through closet child. Try another auction service like from japan or something. They are pretty easy to use.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmila.livejournal.com
Do NOT say that! I thought so too, but you can find it. I know you can.

Date: 2006-09-21 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvanchan.livejournal.com
Don't say that! I managed to get my absolute dreamdress after little over a year! ^^;

Date: 2006-09-21 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duplica-chan.livejournal.com
I would say: the final outcome of the outfit is important not the single parts.
so you know what I mean?

I like big fat boots and I like striped socks! and it is possible to make it look good! you just need a sense of fashion and coordinate it in a beautiful way :D

Date: 2006-09-21 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maetel9.livejournal.com
i don't think those particular boots would look good with anything besides punk/deconstructed outfits. if they didn't have the buckles and springs and holes, they might be ok

Date: 2006-09-21 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerorizim.livejournal.com
i agree with duplica chan. wearing those boots might make you a bit more like lolitapunk than formal lolita, but honestly, if you coordinate it well, almost anything can be done with lolita. (EXCEPT BLUE LIPSTICK. that can never be done well. i'm looking at you, mana.)

*ahem* anyway, yeah, stripey socks are traditionally a nono in this community but i see brandmodels wearing them all the time and they look damn good in them too. so basically, its how you look in them and how you coordinate it.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tartlet.livejournal.com
i'm looking at you, mana.

HA. Okay, sorry. I litereally laughed out loud at that.

I also agree with Duplica. I think if you can pull together different pieces and make them look lolita and follow the basic guidelines of lolita (keyword "basic") I think you could make it work. I also think that it's fashion, and if it makes you happy, then it's beautiful. :)

Date: 2006-09-21 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feytaline.livejournal.com
It depends. I don't think that those boots would look very good with say, your average, everyday Metamorphose JSK, but for more of a punk lolita look, you could probably pull it off. You'd have to be very careful with accesorries, though, or you'd get the "zomg loli n00b" type opinions because it might not look right.

As for striped socks, someone once joked with me that if G&L had 'levels,' striped socks would be 'EXPERT level.' Meaning you'd have to really know your G&L to pull it off. I've seen it done in ads for Baby's Alice & the Pirates, but most of the people I see doing it here are the girls that throw on HT dresses, a headdress, and Chii ears at cons. (No offense intended to any of the above, I think.)

So I think that's something else you'd have to be really careful about doing.

Date: 2006-09-21 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duplica-chan.livejournal.com
I like your idea with these levels XD I had the same thoughts a while ago *_*"
my highest level would be punk lolita and ero lolita ;) I think most people cannot dress good in these two styles, because it's so difficult!

Date: 2006-09-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushisael.livejournal.com
don't forget wa-loli! so few people manage to get that right ^^;

Date: 2006-09-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duplica-chan.livejournal.com
that's completely right! ;)

Date: 2006-09-21 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feytaline.livejournal.com
Indeed! It's so difficult to do punk lolita without looking like a regular punk, and ero lolita is nigh impossible for people who haven't really researched the style.

Date: 2006-09-21 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frozen-yjapan.livejournal.com
There is one similar on y!japan right now here:
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r28269287

I will try to let you know if I see one on yahoo!japan ^^;

Also if you are confused with using Celga, please check out my y!japan shopping community- there is an article at the very top that may be helpful- yes! it is long but I feel that it explains almost everything! about the entirue process:
http://frozen-yjapan.livejournal.com/

Date: 2006-09-21 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aingli-deas.livejournal.com
What are your measurements? I have that one and can tell you if it'd fit if your near my or my friends size.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aingli-deas.livejournal.com
What's that in inches? (lol sorry, I can't convert it right now).

Date: 2006-09-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plasticmonkey.livejournal.com
~36 in bust, ~32.6 in waist, from my calculations. ^_^

Date: 2006-09-21 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aingli-deas.livejournal.com
ahh ok.

yeah her bust might fit it, but her waist wouldn't.

Date: 2006-09-21 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shounenhero.livejournal.com
Oh, not my post, but do you think it would fit someone with a 27 inch waist and a 32 inch bust?

It's most likely out of my budget right now, but I can try ^__^

Date: 2006-09-21 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-a-girl.livejournal.com
H&M is god for a lolita on a budget.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildroselolita.livejournal.com
So true. I bought a pair of $14 bloomers at H&M. Honest to god bloomers.

Date: 2006-09-22 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dykestar.livejournal.com
I have those, too! The long white ones! I bought the matching bra and panty set as well, and I was all like "WTF?! BLOOMERS?!"

Date: 2006-09-22 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-a-girl.livejournal.com
Was this recently? As in, might I still be able to find them?

Date: 2006-09-21 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellorgast.livejournal.com
If boots are a no, then I am a big fat unloli girl. I love boots way more than I love shoes, and I also wear them with loli more often. Although I do agree with others that those ones might be a bit too big and clunky, I think they'd definitely work with the right coordination. They're really adorable, actually.

As for stripey socks, I don't consider them an auto-no either, but there is the problem that your average Hot Topic emopunkgawth loves to wear them, so I think you kind of have to show off your coordination skills in all other aspects to make people see past that. Actually, I think a good way to encorporate stripes while steering away from the norm is to wear stripey lace-topped kneehighs instead of stockings, or wear a different stripe combo than black/white. I love Meta's striped socks, actually.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowjar.livejournal.com
when the right style of boots are used..it looks so GREAT!
I would say just match the boot up with the outfit, as in..if you are wearing loli I would stay away from 8 inch heel shiney as all get out PVC boots with upteen million buckels on them. That just looks out of place.

Date: 2006-09-21 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-zooks.livejournal.com
Honestly, I don't think those particular boots would work well for a lolita outfit. . . they are just too industrial. Platform boots *are* used for lolita outfits, but they are usually more . . . streamlined. Maybe that is not actually the word I'm looking for. ^^;
I like striped socks. I wear them all the time, and I do have ones from some of the brands. The problem is they are overused, especially in umm, less than perfect outfits. Black and white stripes especially.
Really, with both elements, it is all about co-ordination!

Date: 2006-09-21 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] designwonder.livejournal.com
I've noticed that Forever 21 and Target seem to have a lot of blouses that could be used in lolita. I really want to get a blouse at Target for $15 or $20 (I can't remember). I just haven't had a chance to go yet.

Date: 2006-09-22 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novacainekiss.livejournal.com
The only problem is, a lot of those blouses are VERY see through x.x

Date: 2006-09-21 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibisweetloli.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the Sleeping Beauty jsk for a while... as you said it does pop up on Yahoo Japan Auctions (and really it's super easy to do auctions, I highly recommend Celga and their website spells out how to order pretty clearly, and you can always e-mail them with questions too).

About the boots... I'd say no to those boots in particular because of the buckles and whatnot, unless you're wearing more punky lolita things in which case it would go great. Boots can be worn often with lolita, but usually they stay away from buckles and chains and such because it doesn't go (...again unless you're doing more punk lolita). If you look at the boots that the brands themselves make it gives good clues what to look for, lacing up the front, more streamlined construction, bows, etc. Sorry I'm bad at explaining. ^_^;

I've seen striped socks look super cute and almost all the brands manufacture them too. It's mostly hard to pull off blackxwhite striped socks (well, that and super bright colourxblack socks which I see as one of the very few automatic nos, I've NEVER seen it look good in lolita style). Most especially pastel colour (like light pink, or light blue, or whatever matches your outfit)xwhite look really cute with a lot of things. As someone said above, Alice and the Pirates is a good line to look at for coordinating more gothic lolita clothing with blackxwhite striped socks. Also lots of Metamorphose coordinates are done with striped socks on their website (and also their website in past years, which is worth a look at through the Internet Archive search thing for the cute coordinates).

Striped socks it really depends on the outfit too though, such as wearing an elegant VM or MM dress would look horrible with striped socks.

Date: 2006-09-21 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saabisu.livejournal.com
I just got a fan plus friend blouse that is really lovely. Better than some meta stuff and less than half the price.

Date: 2006-09-21 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redtonic.livejournal.com
I think that outfit while being black is sweet lolita so you have to think of something more feminine than those boots. But if you like it, go for it. You're the one wearing it.
H&m is a good place for blouses (and not very expensive either).

Stripes are ok with egl but i don't see what color combination would suit that particular dress. Just go with black socks, that way you'll never go wrong.

Date: 2006-09-21 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadedragon480.livejournal.com
As far as Blouses, try H&M, Target, Rave, or Forever 21. Luckily victorian-style blouses are really popular these days and loliable ones aren't hard to find. Igot a gorgeous one at Rave for $20 around christmas last year.

Date: 2006-09-21 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sacredarrow.livejournal.com
Stripey socks look wonderful with sailor loli, IMO.

Date: 2006-09-21 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redninjawinz.livejournal.com
From what I heard the shirring JSK is very pricy now. It seems like people really liked that one more than the non shirring one. I think the last one for sale on YJ went for over 500$ you can try stalking closet child but I haven't seen it one there in a bit. Iknow how you feel I really want this meta bustle OP even offered my Sleeping beauty JSK for it but no go.

Date: 2006-09-22 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaivxn.livejournal.com
Neat Boots! I love tall platform black leather shoes (in Loli, I compare wearing those type of shoes with the fluffy dress to putting a lovely cupcake on top of a tall cakestand, more for the better presentation)
If you don't want them to look too punk, mabye you can "tweak" thier look? Black silk roses in the holes in the base, and fat black bows (leather is better) pinned over the buckles on the sides, to make bows trail down the sides? Change out the laces with ribbons and strong string of fake pearls?
(oh, I have big, fat, half furry boots) and they are adorable. As others said, it's just depends on your imagination!

Date: 2006-09-22 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] legsdiamond.livejournal.com
I think those boots are a no. . . . Big stompy boots can work as long as they have all the right elements. . . those have none. unles you're doing cyber loli or something like that ^_^

I think stripy socks jsut have to be paired witht he right outfit. . . they look so cute with a black and white sailor dress!

Date: 2006-09-22 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverlightstar.livejournal.com
I'd definitely wear those boots with punkloli (I have an outfit from Putumauyo that would be perfect with those boots.). ^^

Date: 2006-09-22 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bucktick.livejournal.com
I see them regularly at closet child although black is rare. I am going there tomorrow. I will look fo shizzle.

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