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I'm taking a break from sewing and was browsing the fanplusfriend shop when I came across this petticoat that seems to have metal hoopskirt boning in it. Has anyone ever worn or made a pannier like this? I'm curious about what the shape is like compared to the usual cupcakey tulle creations, and how it is when you sit down. I know hoopskirts can be made that will collapse when you go through a doorway or sit, but I don't know how. Anyone here know?
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Date: 2006-08-20 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tnicole1976.livejournal.com
i heard, and i don't know if this is true, but in the civil war era, i think they flipped them up in the back when they sat down so it wouldn't flip in the front and show rhett and the other boys the lady's underwear.

again, i don't know if this is true or not.

Date: 2006-08-21 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toujourspret.livejournal.com
To sit in a hoop, lessons from a ren freak:

First, you need to know the length between the hoops. Too long a length and the dress will "pool" around you unevenly, too short and you'll have to do some major skirt-hiking to sit delicately. A good distance would be the rise of your pants, i.e.-from the top of your waist to the bottom of your bottom while sitting. This way, the top part of your skirt will pool evenly.

When sitting, gently lift the skirt so that the first hoop below your knees (or the hoop at your knees) falls into the hollow behind them. While doing this, angle your hoops (by directing them via the hoop at your knees)until they are horizontal. Push them back until they clear your rear with grace and perch yourself on the edge of your chair or seat so that your hoops have room behind you and plenty of room between your knees and the edge of the shair/seat. If done properly, this looks like you're adjusting the fluff of your skirt to fall more daintily on the chair.

Date: 2006-08-21 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toujourspret.livejournal.com
Also, once you have already seated yourself, you can (gently!) tug your skirt back into place so that it covers your legs.

If your skirt only has one hoop and it falls above the knees, just push the hoop back behind you as above. You'll be sitting on the bare seat and not your skirt, but you're wearing bloomers, anyway, right?

Date: 2006-08-21 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meiki.livejournal.com
It might just be me, but I'm not thinking it'd work as well with knee length garments. I've never really seen hoopskirts in anything but floorlength things.

Date: 2006-08-21 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edens-destiny.livejournal.com
My first petticoat was a hoop type. I had to learn on my own, very quickly, how to sit properly ^^;; I didn't have bloomers at that time either so it was rather unpleasant, thus the reason why I don't use it anymore. They are too difficult for me in my opinion but I do love the shape they give to the dress. Mine is a knee length hoopskirt btw. ^^;;

Date: 2006-08-21 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multifacet.livejournal.com
My neighbor that I babysit has a disney halloween costume with a "hoop" skirt for support.

It uses really thick plastic tubing that's about 1/4-3/8 inches in diameter (kind of like the medical tubing, you know, when you get IVs in the hospital). This way, it bends and moves with you, but isn't too bulky and doesn't deform so easily. She's had it probably 2 years now, and it still holds up quite well, as she plays around in it a lot, and stuffs it up in her closet when she's done.

I'd be afraid that the tubing could get crushed easily if you bend it at a sharp angle, so you might want to check it out before you try it-- but as far as I'm aware her skirt isn't crushed or anything. It doesn't hold up a very heavy fabric, though; I'd assume it would bend under the weight of really heavy skirts.


When I saw that F+F petti, it looked EXACTLY like the underskirt in my neighbor's costume--same material, same one round hoop at the bottom of the petticoat--so I always assumed the F+F version used plastic tubing, as well.

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