Beware of Ling Lam...

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

I am gonna bitch and warn at the same time. I emailed her first about bigger sizes like 42 and up.

Her response about 3 weeks ago.

<ling_lam2005@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
 
     hi, i can get shoes in sizes Euro 42 and higher. Would you mind tell your size.^^

Now, I talk to her tonight to clear up the RH debate.

[23:47] ling_lam2005: do you show the size
[23:47] iloveturnipcake: yes i have the size
[23:47] iloveturnipcake: can you make size 43 EUro
[23:48] ling_lam2005: you say your friends don't like them
[23:48] ling_lam2005: why you order again
[23:48] iloveturnipcake: we already have the money
[23:48] iloveturnipcake: so we might as well buy them
[23:48] ling_lam2005: maximum size 41
[23:48] iloveturnipcake: you told me you can make bigger sizes
[23:48] ling_lam2005: some shoes
[23:48] iloveturnipcake: that was the first email i sent you
[23:48] ling_lam2005: not all
[23:49] ling_lam2005: for example boots
[23:49] ling_lam2005: we can make 42
[23:49] iloveturnipcake: what about 43
[23:49] ling_lam2005: it's man's size
[23:49] ling_lam2005: too big
[23:49] iloveturnipcake: we have some girl who need big sizes
[23:50] iloveturnipcake: can you make RH in 42
[23:50] ling_lam2005: we are chinaese
[23:50] ling_lam2005: most the shoes for aisa
[23:51] iloveturnipcake: can you custom make bigger sizes
[23:51] ling_lam2005: oh, too bad
[23:51] ling_lam2005: i just need 38
[23:51] ling_lam2005: HAHA
[23:51] ling_lam2005: 42 to me is too bid
[23:51] ling_lam2005: big
[23:51] ling_lam2005: custom 41 that a limit
[23:51] iloveturnipcake: 'i am a asian girl
[23:52] ling_lam2005: but
[23:52] iloveturnipcake: i wear 42

So back to the RH drama,

I first imed her about the shoes just for my own knowledge.

19:51] Clueless: also are the rocking horse shoes bottoms wood or foam
[19:51] Clueless: (Link: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n192/cluelesscase/1c8dscd.jpg)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n192/cluelesscase/1c8dscd.jpg
[19:51] Clueless: those
[19:52] 小辣椒: wood
[19:53] Clueless: o ok thank you becasue i bought a pair thinking it was wood but they were foam
[19:53] 小辣椒: i dont chest u
[19:54] 小辣椒: ^^

[21:18] iloveturnipcake: i forgot are the rocking horse shoes wood or foam
[21:18] ling_lam2005: wood
[21:19] iloveturnipcake: ok
[21:19] ling_lam2005: ^^

So i asked a few more times pretty much everytime i talked to her. When people got theirs, they turned out to be foam. Tonight I asked her again.

[18:47] Clueless: so can you show me which ones have the wood on the bottom
[18:48] 小辣椒: those of that is made of  pinewood
[18:49] Clueless: the picture i send you?
[18:49] 小辣椒: becuase the pinewood is lighter than other wood
[18:49] 小辣椒: yes
[18:49] Clueless: then how come my friend got foam
[18:50] 小辣椒: that is not foam , that is pinewood
[18:50] Clueless: she got foam
[18:50] Clueless: no wood
[18:51] Clueless: is there something she can do?
[18:51] Clueless: the shoes you sent her were not wood
[18:53] Clueless: she got the ones with "montreal" on it
[18:53] 小辣椒: what is your friend's name ?
[18:54] Clueless: she also emailed you
[18:54] Clueless: and you said you dont have wood shoes
[18:55] 小辣椒: is me said haven't wood shoes?
[18:55] Clueless yeah
[19:03] Clueless: are those the foam ones?
[19:04] 小辣椒: our shoes are not made of foam
[19:04] Clueless: well so far the people who buy the shoes say they are not wood
[19:04] 小辣椒: we had send out 10 pairs of shoes , nobody said that our shoes is made of foam
[19:05] Clueless: Yes they have
[19:05] 小辣椒: not
[19:05] Clueless: can i show you
[19:07] 小辣椒: do you know what is foam?
[19:07] Clueless: yea
[19:07] Clueless: it is lighter than wood
[19:07] Clueless: and Montreal is brand
[19:07] Clueless: and she got montreal foam rocking horse shoes from you
[19:07] 小辣椒: we never made a foam shoes
[19:08] Clueless: well they both order from you
[19:08] Clueless: and email you
[19:08] 小辣椒: do you know what is pinewood?
[19:09] Clueless: yes
[19:10] 小辣椒: do you know they are lighter than common wood
[19:10] 小辣椒: ?
[19:10] Clueless: yes
[19:10] Clueless: it is not the color
[19:10] Clueless: you can tell foam from wood
[19:10] Clueless: wood is harder than foam
[19:10] Clueless: and heavier
[19:11] Clueless: and the brand Montreal only sells foam
[19:11] Clueless: and that is the shoes she got
[19:12] Clueless: o ok
[19:12] 小辣椒: what is Montreal?
[19:12] Clueless: it is the brand

At first, I thought this would of been a great experience and find for us esp those with big feet. I feel like I should pull the shoe esp after what happened to me at night.  But i doubt i will order from her again unless she gets better customer serivce. Just because you dont know english well..I had to kinda type engrish for her. It doesn't make it right for you to lie esp if someone is gonna place such a huge order. IF you guys still want to do the group order, I will since you started paying.

Comments

[banshee123.livejournal.com]

Wow. Language is not a barrier here!

:|

That sounds very confusing, and rather rude.

"HAHA 42 to me is too bid."

COOL. I think if everyone just stays away from the rocking horses they'll be fine (and be specific when asking which shoes they can make "large").

[http://users.livejournal.com/_your_lover_/]

Ugh that sucks! In the begining she seemed like such a nice lady.

[visual-trap.livejournal.com]

NOOOOO I wanted the RKs in WOOD. Goddamn they're foam. I'm not sure if I'll pull out from my order though... But man, that seems like a lot of stress to go through and all especially since you took the time to update us and everything. I hope something can work out.

[icecreambat.livejournal.com]

[23:49] iloveturnipcake: what about 43
[23:49] ling_lam2005: it's man's size

That made me LOLZ (hello tactful customer service!)

I didn't originally take part in the group order because I had bought enough shoes for the time being as it is, but the price sounded a little too good to be true. I guess it goes to show that with no pre-existing positive feedback and a super low price, there's always the possibility of fishiness going on :|

[kitaosatchan.livejournal.com]

most of people in HK company don't make actual wood, is too heavy and hard
i saw around all HK!AUC and is all foam~ no wood at all
so not very suprise me~

[noir-lollie.livejournal.com]

hmmm...i ordered a pair from lolita_lola herself and apparently i believe she provides for 69th department. I asked her but she refused to tell me, prob customer privacy? but apparently lolita_lola told me she'd get them around 17th of August which was also the same date on 69th department's site then i asked her again and it was changed to 20th and if u look now, 69th's date is now 21th...coincidence? I think lolita_lola also provides for...what was that sellers name? the one in singapore, mwitch? I don't remember but her shoes are all wooden, not foam. If you live in china then it's 200 yuan incl shipping which is like 33 AUD (25 USD) but if you don't then shipping is gonna kill u, it costs more than the shoes, the shoes were around $44 AUD cos i paid by paypal and shipping ended up being around $70!! but it was still cheaper than anywhere else so i would recommend doing a group order with her instead. She does do sizes up to 43, her msn is lolita_lola@tom.com - msn only :)

sorry for long post

[noir-lollie.livejournal.com]

ohh forgot to mention the shipping was from china to Australia

[kai-nimura.livejournal.com]

now i'm worried that we're all going to get the wrong sizes / colors / styles.

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

I just think it is the sizes that;s the main issue.

[novacainekiss.livejournal.com]

I'm going to have to drop out then since I have man sized feet =p~

This really sucks and I'm sorry that you went to all of this trouble for everyone and you're not going to even get a pair. ;_;

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

It's good I got this out early before we acutally placed an order and be totally screwed. She's acutally gonna get off her ass and ask rather than just assume shit.

[infidelkast.livejournal.com]

Can I venture to ask what foam is made out of? **cough** I keep getting this mental image of the stuff you use for packing...

Wow, she's pretty air-headed. :\ I'd be really pissed if I were apart of the group order.

[lonelygodess.livejournal.com]

Yup! I was counting on those WOODEN size 42 RH shoes, but I guess I am a freak-baby and have monster man feet? Boo!

[kitzune.livejournal.com]

When money is at stake and there is bargaining going on, I don't take chances with people who cannot speak fluently with me in some language. It doesn't have to be English. She seems like a shady character to begin with.

[princesspammie.livejournal.com]

that's such a shame..I hope you're still willing to share the quality of the skirt you bought from her or dit you cancel that order?

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

Yeah. By this weeked or early next.

[articuna.livejournal.com]

omg °_°... by the way, in her ebay she wrote that it isn't wood.:

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocking-horse-shoes-nana-shoes-lolita-shoes_W0QQitemZ220017822905QQihZ012QQcategoryZ63889QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem)

[needoll.livejournal.com]

i think she changed that cause i've been looking back and forth for the last few days at the rh shoes and i've never noticed it before... but then again i could have been blind >.

[tnicole1976.livejournal.com]

that sucks cause it is so hard to find cute shoes in a 42. but even in america where it's a size 10, it's considered pretty big. but they make every size here. i can understand there not being a market for it. now though, a lot of us are ordering shoes from overseas like this, so maybe soon they will see a profit to be made in making the bigger sizes for us. i mean, geez, isn't everyone supposed to cater to americans? (that's sarcasm. i don't really think that)

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

What's weird because i found a Singapore supplier and they have the exact same shoes up to 42.

[aingli-deas.livejournal.com]

Wow, nice customer service there. Maybe someone who speaks Chinese could help you with this situation.

lol, a size 42 is pretty big, that's a womans size 11, I don't even think payless carries a size 11. But I think she was insulting the fact people have large feet. :/ The west is tall, that's just how it is, lol.

[lonelygodess.livejournal.com]

No, it's a size ten. Payless goes up to *at least* a 13, I'm sure I've seen larger.

[torment2romance.livejournal.com]

Right I am getting worried about this. I put my name down on the list, and I was about to pay, but this has seriously made me have doubts. She really doesn't appear trustworthy...and i dont like the thought of putting my money in her hands if the shoes turn out to be bad. I am so sorry to cause trouble but is it okay if I dont pay for a few days until we know if the group order is actually going to go through? *paranoid!* Very sorry about this, and good luck! xx

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

The shoes aren't shoddy. It's just the customer service.

[lonelygodess.livejournal.com]

Should I just pull out, then? I haven't payed yet, but it seems there's no point, since my man-feet can't fit into her stupid shoes. *sigh* I've been so excited, too. Hope something else can be worked out with lolita_lola. =/

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

I still dont have a final word on what sizes can be made. I think if you all pester her about it. SHe might do more. But don't mention me. She thinks i am the ones saying its foam not wood. I don't even own a pair.

[teafunnyx3.livejournal.com]

hmmm i'm going to wait a few days until i pay if that's alright. because i would rather have wood RHs than foam.

[blackpeace.livejournal.com]

wow, i was thinking of ordering a pair of lolita boots from her, but now, i don't think i will. i can't imagine how frustrating it would be to communicate with her should i get a wrong pair of shoes.

I think I'll just wait for you to review the skirt. :\

D:

[arleena753.livejournal.com]

That unbelievably disappointing. Seems I'm a macho man eh.. Size 10.5/11. To think I fell in love with Image(104) . Ah well, if its meant to be.. it's meant to be. Some day i'll get my loli shoes <3

[accela.livejournal.com]

i don't know if it's an error on your friends' side or not, but i'll throw this out there anyways; when i first ordered Double Deckers, i was so disappointed and mad that i got "foam" shoes

then everyone here had to correct me and tell me "ash, that's pinewood, you dolt."

and i was like "no way!" but alas, i was wrong. pinewood totally feels like fake wood to me.

i dunno if that's the situation, but most of my shoes that are "light" wood are actually of a thicker wood than pinewood (balsa, mayhaps), but i definetely pretty pinewood now... it's a LOT lighter and more comfortable.

also, it doesn't dent as easily as balsa, believe it or not. but it still will dent, especially if you're dumb like me and like doing gymnastics in your fancy shoes.

[palantiriell.livejournal.com]

I reeeeeeeeeeally hope that's the case. It would clear up a lot of problems/coincidences, such as Ling Lam insisting over and over, 'Do you know what pinewood is??'

[ex-razzymelo838.livejournal.com]

Grr. Then I'm going to pull my pink rocking horses then. I really don't want foam as I hope to wear these often. n_n;

I can't find the original post? my email is kukosunosuke^@^yahoo.com minus the ^.

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

do you still want the other ones?

[jolie-laide.livejournal.com]

As long as my shoes can be made in size 40 and 38 respectively, I will remain in the order but please let me know if you plan to drop the entire order.

[tsu-nanashi.livejournal.com]

Yeah... We'll pull out until there's a group order for wooden soals. *Sghs* I agree with everyone else, she seems shady anyway.

[tsu-nanashi.livejournal.com]

We being me... and my sister who are on the same order.... >.>

[clueless-case.livejournal.com]

its just the couple 42s and the 43.

[industrialkitty.livejournal.com]

Wow... Geez...
Who's the other one that sells Montreal shoes?
I guess that cancels my post on the Ling_Lam group order side

[ambivalent-amy.livejournal.com]

Ester Ho
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