[identity profile] lchan.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] egl_archive
! They're so cute! I'm sorry if this is a bit off subject (is it?) but I went to the links out of curiousity and omg.. I love them! >< How expensive do they run, normally? And >> will I need to pawn millions of things to buy one? Can someone pick me one up and ship it to me if I pay? I would absolutely die. They're so adorable! ..what kinds of things do they come with? Can you customize outfits? Wow... info would be great, just not more websites, because my IE hates foreign script >>;;

contact me on here or on my AIM sns, arachica or Raindays1303 ;) Thank you SO much!

Lyn

Date: 2004-02-19 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calistrisa.livejournal.com
I got my first Super Dollfie last year. It's an SD13 Sara, she ran me about $735 and I purchased her from http://www.doll-hobby.com/Home.asp which is the only North American dealer for Super Dollfies.

They are expensive, but worth it. :)

You can check out my girl at [livejournal.com profile] sexydynamite

Date: 2004-02-19 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorrowsdemise.livejournal.com
After seeing someone post about them yesterday, I thought OMG those are so cute, I had to have one. I searched found no prices, then I did an ebay search. They sell clothes, wigs, everything but nothing runs less then $20 (US), and then I came across a body, just the body, nothing else and it was $380. Ouch! I guess I'll never own one, if a body is $380, I couldn't imagine what they sell the whole doll for. Sigh. I guess I'll settle on just pictures of all there cuteness.

Date: 2004-02-19 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetveil.livejournal.com
I've seen a website that's dedicated to those kinds of dolls. I really don't know much about them so I wanted to ask what makes them different from other dolls? I suppose it's just the way their makeup is and style of clothing? I would die to have one, but sadly I really have no clue where I could buy one.

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Date: 2004-02-19 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgen-stern.livejournal.com
Super Dollfies are not just different because of their make-up and clothes. If that was the case then the insane prices would be hardly justifiable. What makes Super Dollfies so different is their materials, their construction, and their over all customizable nature.

Super Dollfies are polyurethane resin ball-jointed dolls. They come to you, usually with out clothing, little make up, maybe a wig, and they are not entirely "finished." The point of the Super Dollfie is to customize him/her yourself, which means cleaning the seams away, sanding the surface, separating fingers and toes, coating, blushing, stringing, and doing the face-up yourself. You can buy certain limited-edition pre-finished dolls, but they are even more expencive, and very difficult to get your hands on, unless you're fast and have a lot of money. There are also people who will do the customizations for you, if you're not afraid to ship your 500 to 1000 dollar doll off to unknown persons.

After that you can customize further with various wigs and eyes, and elaborate outfits for your doll. Some Super Dollfie dresses, especially well made Goth Loli types, cost as much as a *full sized* dress for yourself!

I used to lust after a Super Dollfie of my own rather keenly, but after spending a while on a Yahoo!Group dedicated to them, I became disillusioned to the whole thing. Dollfie owners simply seem too shallow and fickle with their dolls, too compulsive with buying them. I saw so many posts trying to sell a doll before it even arrived at the original buyers house, because the person just hadn't been reasonable, and simply could not afford the doll. So unrealistic. I'd prefer to sink my money into clothes to doll myself up, or maybe a cute little girlfriend. A living doll would be so much more fun and fulfilling than one of polyurethane. :P

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
Though I'm not afraid to say I have over 150 of them, because I never paid more than 18 dollars for one.

Mmmm...kay. Even at $5 a pop, 150 Beanie Babies would cost a total of $750. My Costume Play Ai cost $660, which included a full esthetic course & truly amazing faceup, OOAK outfit, eyes, 2 wigs, 2 pair of shoes, 2 pair of eyelashes, a copy of the hardcover children's/art book that the Girl my doll is cosplaying is from, a t-shirt for me, and shipping from Korea.

I'm afraid I fail to see the difference between "wasting" money on a $500-$1,000+ doll & "wasting" money on 150 bits of bean-filled fabric.

^_^

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calistrisa.livejournal.com
And postcards!! :D

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah!

Sure wish I knew what I did with the damn things...

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Date: 2004-02-20 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
"We girls"? Honey, I'm 30. ^_^ I've also never lost sleep over a doll, & although I *did* sell a couple of moderately pricey pieces of comic art to afford my Ai, it's nothing that broke my heart to do without. What's more, I assure you that an *awful* lot of "us girls" are old enough to have careers, savings, lines of credit, supportive SO's, etc so that neither loss of sleep nor pawning of anything is at all necessary in order to own several BJD's.

Yes, some people have been known to behave ridiculously regarding these dolls, but people are like that. You can find some people behaving ridiculously about *anything* if you look hard enough... and you often don't have to look very hard, since the ridiculous people tend to be the most vocal. ;}

My main point about the Beanie Babies is that you've obviously spent some of your spare cash on something that's completely unecessary to your continued comfortable existence. There is absolutely no difference between buying a bunch of little stuffed animals, or a couple of BTSSB dresses, or a Super Dollfie: it's just a decision as to where you want to put your expendable income... and sometimes it makes more sense to some people to save up to buy one fairly expensive thing rather than a whole assload of cheap stuff over a period of time.

Personally, I like having a nice mix of assloads of Cheap Stuff & a small smattering of Fairly Expensive. I like stuff. :D

Anywho...

What it all comes down to is that "too expensive" is a very personal decision. You certainly don't have to want to spend that much money on one doll, but it seems to me rather churlish to imply that people that *do* choose to buy said dolls are shallow and "not...right".

JMO, of course

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
I used to lust after a Super Dollfie of my own rather keenly, but after spending a while on a Yahoo!Group dedicated to them, I became disillusioned to the whole thing. Dollfie owners simply seem too shallow and fickle with their dolls, too compulsive with buying them.

o_O

So... you're no longer interested in something because you don't like some of the other people that are interested in it?

If I adopted that philosophy, I wouldn't have any interests left! ;D

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgen-stern.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, it does deter me from becoming deeply interested in a lot of things. I would play more DDR, but I've met too many snobby DDR elitist, so I just play it now and then for fun, but I've never progressed past basic level 4 or 5.

The obsessive yet fickle nature of the Dollfie fans makes me take less of an interest in the dolls themselves, because the sort of community that grows up around the interest is unappealing to me. If I don't like the people who I share an interest with, then I won't be able to share the interest at all, really. Sure, I could buy a Dollfie and just enjoy it by myself, but that's a little lonely, and, as I said, the doll isn't going to be able to give me satisfying friendship or comfort.

Oh well though, it's no loss really, and this way I have more money for Goth Loli things ^-^

agreed!

Date: 2004-02-20 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolihime.livejournal.com
if I had unlimited funds for my hobbies, I would buy them. but as it is, i'd have to be obsessed with them to spend that much.. it would be kind of like having children, buying clothes, makeup, supplying 'friends' for them, accessories.. not forgetting doll sized furniture! imagine the cost..

Re: agreed!

Date: 2004-02-20 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calistrisa.livejournal.com
I know, that's what I love about my Drusilla! She's another outlet for my sewing, and finding all sorts of cute things for her... it's like having a kid but without all the whining and pooping!

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Date: 2004-02-20 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
In order to tell you what makes them different from other dolls, we'd have to know to which "other dolls" you wish to compare them. :} They're about twice as tall as Barbie, nearly 8" taller than Gene, & more poseable than either. They're also made in rather limited numbers & out of high-quality resin.

There is, of course, lots more... but you really have to see one IRL & play with it to *really* understand the allure. :}

Date: 2004-02-19 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atelier-alice.livejournal.com
Domuya (http://www.domuya.com) is a good place to look... Super Dollfies are quite expensive, basic going from $600+, but mini SD's are around $350-400+. They are darling, though.

..

Date: 2004-02-19 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robotribbon.livejournal.com
people who like SD's generall also like Ai's, which are pretty much the same, I'm pretty sure. a plain ai goes for about $300? I'm not sure.. cutom ones can go for over a thousand. Go here: www.customhouse.org

gah

Date: 2004-02-19 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robotribbon.livejournal.com
I was wrong. basic Ai bodies are about $650. If you get a small child, it's about $350 and it comes with an outfit.

Date: 2004-02-20 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoloft.livejournal.com
All of your questions are answered on Aimee's amazing doll site: http://www.aimeemajor.com/dolls/ . Don't worry, it's all in English, so your IE will be perfectly happy. :}

Date: 2004-02-20 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uglylittlewhore.livejournal.com
No one has mentioned Angel Region yet. :) Here is their English site, that ships internationally: http://www.angelfactory.co.kr . Their dolls are comparable to Super Dollfie (in fact, I greatly prefer the AR dolls' faces over SD), but a good bit cheaper. The smaller 16" dolls run about $250, unassembled and without accessories, while the 22" dolls are about $400. A finished doll with face paint, wig, and eyes runs about $50-100 more than the kit. Shipping is usually included in the price.

Date: 2004-02-20 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xevron.livejournal.com
I am kinda like one of those dollfie people mentioned above.
Except I have one dollfie. I don't understand how people can just randomly buy them for no reason.

I wanted a paticular dollfie and lost sleep thinking of ways I could get him. I came up with $980 to pay for him in 24 days...
Most people think I am insane but for some reason it dosn't seem weird to me at all.
As I'm sure the case is with most dollfie owners.

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Date: 2004-02-20 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentsecret428.livejournal.com
and how kool did the shipment look =n.n= i am so happy that you took photos. kawaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii X_X

and the sizes... now they are certainly not average dolls [ oo00o]] . which obviously adds to the cost.. at first i thought it was for a smaller-than-barbie-sized doll.. [ it all started in a yahoo group when someone posted a similar-small-barbie-sized doll for 250- then people talked about volks dolls and how they tended to run more expensive] i assumed the price would be very high for a very small doll..

but then when you got yours... it hardly goes without saying that it would probably be worth it all =n.n= because it is indeed very cute. - yours especially aswell.


I lust seeing the hair you do for your dear doll ~!!! wah

Date: 2004-02-20 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel-cosmos.livejournal.com
I adore SDs but I doubt I can ever afford one. v_v

It's hard enough for me to pay for my Blythes. I only own two but I hope to get two more and that's it. ^^; Oh, how I adore Velvet Minuet and Asian Butterfly *sobs*

My Two Cents

Date: 2004-02-20 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] northern-raven.livejournal.com
I have to admit, in the very beginning,before I did any proper research about these asian ball-jointed dolls, but just knew the price, I was shocked. How could a doll end up being so expensive? Why would anyone pay that much? It didn't seem at first glance, worth it.

Fortunately for me, I wanted to find out more and I did the research.
Unlike standard mass produced dolls that we were familiar with as little girls, the asian ball-jointed dolls aren't made out of cheap materials, and they aren't toys.
But unlike standard art dolls, like porcelain and ceramic dolls that you might see in some fancy stores, meant for display only, the dollfies have over 18 points of articulation, (that means they have a wide range of movement) and their material though fine (resin is like a softer lighter form of ceramic), is more durable, allowing a person to really handle their doll.

Unlike dolls that we are familiar with, who have factories located in several different places with machine made parts, these asian ball-jointed dolls each have but one factory.

Each part is hand poured, and each doll is hand packaged. The customized ones even have hand-sewn garments, they are also hand painted. You usually have to specially order them. It is very personal, and extremely high quality.

You are paying for a functional sculpture, an actual work of art that lets the owner get involved in it's creation. Most people who buy these dolls learn how to sew,paint, and even learn photography and they really get involved, hands-on with their doll. It isn't just something that will sit on a shelf and get an occational costume change.

For some people, this becomes a really rewarding new hobby as there always seems something new to do with the little work of art. People have also been able to make a return on the money they spent by crafting clothing and accessories for the doll and then selling them. *^_^*

I am 24, by no-means rich, and I own my very own Volks Super Dollfie and I don't ever feel as though I've wasted my money. It is because the doll, like my computer, also provides ways to keep me occupied. Unlike, say...beanie babies, which can only sit on a shelf.

I am really disturbed that you would think I am shallow for taking on this hobby. I think it would be a little wiser to do some research before assigning lables to people you don't know enough about. =

Re: My Two Cents

Date: 2004-02-21 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otaku-val-chan.livejournal.com
o.o; Thanks for the insight, I never knew ^-^ I think that's really awesome. No wonder..

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