[identity profile] colotov.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] egl_archive
I have several critical analizisms about these turst individuals that I hope to bring around the recognition (and hopefully their redemption) of their faulty and unstablical ways. (This is a sample of what is forthcoming, please find a dictionary if confused.)

When my significant other told me about this fashion fad (incorporated with a set of morals as well) I thought that the the upstanding individuals who created this truly sophisticated style of life were bringing past a generation of people I would be proud to stand next to and state that we are mankind. What I found more interesting then the neogothic (no one post about another fashion design being neogothic, because EGL is ,according to the english language, neogothic , let me break it down in english for you (Neo-new age , gothic-protaining to medieval design, but in recent years has been used to refer to pre-antebellum times as well. [hint: pre-antebellum refers to times before the United States' Civil War]) fashion apparel is the set of respectable morals not formally taught by any public or peer groups (unless of course one forgets religions and conservative parental guardians).

The hypocrites hiding a'mist your fields. [Quick History Lesson: This phrase comes from guerrilla warfare of the early 18th century, where guerrilla troops would hid in wheat fields to lay ambushes.]

On a personal note I would like to state that I am ashamed at all of you. Is not one of the morals that you should follow in this persona of gentry to be courteous and kind to one another? There are better words to be used then the curt, short-tailed, offensive junk that comes off your heads. If these are the only people you relate to for fashion and inspirational guidance then your in trouble if you argue with them.
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Date: 2004-01-16 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feline-dacat.livejournal.com
*psst*
I am in love with your icon! I luff Tomo-chan XD
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Date: 2004-01-16 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] czol.livejournal.com
Must be using George W. Bush's dictionary. Maybe it's his speechwriter?

Date: 2004-01-15 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropigalia.livejournal.com
If you're going to try to sound educated by using "big words", please make sure that they're real first.

This whole post is really condescending and badly punctuated, and I don't appreciate being talked down to AND being told off for doing something that you're allowed to do, which is to post in a pretentious and curt manner.

Date: 2004-01-15 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nachthymn.livejournal.com
Congratulations! You're weird. I can't imagine what guerilla warfare would have to do with anything at all and how you can incorporate that into such an intelligent rant which like everything else I see in this community is making me stupid is pure amazement. Just keep playing on the internet bud...as long as I don't see people like you outside and behind me in line at a grocery store then I'm happy.

Date: 2004-01-15 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropigalia.livejournal.com
Can you imagine him in the line behind you at a grocery store?

It'd be like this:

[livejournal.com profile] chiharu: ::waits in line patiently:: ::laughs at an advertisement for a silly product::
[livejournal.com profile] colotov: you KNOW, i don't think your comprehensivismbility of the history of that GUM WRAPPER would allowate you to judgify that ad.
everyone: ::blink::
[livejournal.com profile] colotov: oh, CAN'T YOU UNDERSTANDERALINATE ME?! maybe you should go get a dictionary.

he'd probably be yelling all this, too.

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Date: 2004-01-15 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atelier-alice.livejournal.com
Ideally, everyone would be lovely and nice to one another, but as they say, one (or a few more...) bad apples spoil the barrel. One angry post starts many upset posts.

Maybe when everybody is dressed in their finest, they transform? Or so we would like to hope... No-one can adhere to the Gothic & Lolita lifestyle 24/7... Heaven knows the Japanese Lolita's don't. But when one is dressed as an Elegant Gothic Lolita, I would hope one would act like an Elegant Gothic Lolita. ^_^

Date: 2004-01-15 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiralstairs.livejournal.com
bad apples spoil the barrel

::points to self:: Exhibit A.

A pleasure to know someone's being sensible. ^_^ I gave up awhile ago, so apologies in advance if a flame war starts. I've probably had something to do with it and it's peeps like you who don't deserve to listen to it.

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcastic-sushi.livejournal.com
That's true. I don't have much the chance to dress even remotely EGL, but the concept of the style just intrigued me, and it really is dumb that people just can't get along, but like they said, internet breeds stupidity, or people who think they are the "more loli than others".. It just gets old after a while.
And you're right. Nobody really DOES follow through with the EGL style day in and day out, because when you dress and act the same way all the time, not only will everyone get sick of you, you'll get sick of yourself, right?
You're awesome. And I agree. :D

Date: 2004-01-15 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinablue.livejournal.com
*chuckles* That was rather amusing. Trying to give us all a vocabulary lession, while you should probably be taking a lession or two yourself. Oh, and I would love to know why you felt the need to tell us the historical background of a phrase? *shakes head*

Date: 2004-01-15 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garagesuperstar.livejournal.com
I think I see even more eyes rolling around the room.

I really can't be bothered with this one... it's just getting ridiculous now! How many times can I say that I'm sick of all this flaming?!

Date: 2004-01-15 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinablue.livejournal.com
With a post such as this, quite frankly he/she was asking for it. I agree, some people here are just downright rude. However, from this post, it gave me the impression that he/she is no better.

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenevalkyrie.livejournal.com
Oy.. if you are going to be condescending, at least try to use real words... Finding a dictionary wouldn't exactly help us if you don't, now would it? :)

I have the pleasure of frequently conversing with people who are both intelligent and have an excellent grasp of the English language, and let me tell you - from what I see here, you are not that type of person. Please refrain from this style of speech unless you can use it properly, and have something of substance underneath it all - because as far as I can tell, the only things you are saying here are that lolitas should be nice to each other, and that the people here spoiled your conception that lolitas are the epitome of mankind. (Very grand idea, I must say!) You didn't quite need 4 paragraphs, a couple insults, a few fake words and a "quick history lesson" to say that.

Oh.. this is my first post on this comm, only been watching a few days. *waves to everyone* LOL. I guess I picked a bad time to join, but posts like this are a pet peeve of mine so I had to jump in... :) I'll likely make a proper introductory post when things settle down, and I actually have something to say. ^_^

Date: 2004-01-15 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garagesuperstar.livejournal.com
sorry that you are new here, it used to be a nice place... honest!!!

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcastic-sushi.livejournal.com
I agree with the others. If you're going to be a pseudo-intellectual, at least learn to spell or know true meanings of words, and don't try to make it sound like you're god, dear, those traits you take on only make it more laughable by those of us here who actually do have brains.
And I quote: "Curse the malformed sperm that somehow beat out all the healthy ones and created you in some horrible genetic accident."

Date: 2004-01-15 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geistcell.livejournal.com
hahahahaha. that was the most verbose, retarded pile of dung i've ever read. analizisms. turst.hahahahaha

Date: 2004-01-15 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiralstairs.livejournal.com
1) It's the inability to be quiet and demure that's had me keeping my trap shut since my last post. The reaction to yours that's gotten me to open it back up.
2) A really good point was just made and only one of you got it. The rest of you who started going on about the spelling, cork it. If you met yourself on the street acting like you are now, you'd think they were worse.
3) The rest of you, except for that one, are being the exact opposite of what you're preaching you have to be perfect at: EGL. It's not just in the clothes, but the character, and the latter leaves a much better impression on people. I can't achieve that, so I'm certainly not going to lash out like a mongoose at the first thing that points out the truth. Eat your words, lovies. You are a bunch of rude and arrogant fools. Nobody's trying to be intellectual.
4) Drama belongs in the theatre.
5) My apologies to the polite and mature members of the group who are smart enough not to go into rabid cat mode like most of us.

'a really good point was made'

Date: 2004-01-15 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geistcell.livejournal.com
maybe so, but it was so pretentious my brain imploded before i could work out what on earth was being said. if someone puts themselves up there we have a right to comment and have an opinion

how am i pretentious?

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who asked you?

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loli-miyoko.livejournal.com
I think I'm in love. You are very smart and also very good in fashion history, as well as english. :o) You made my day, thank you.

I'm new here, but I have already seen what you mean.

I love every style, gothic lolita, renaissance, romantic goth, victorian, etc. (I'm on a big sweet lolita and little big girl phase right now) and I need inspiration from all people. Everyone can offer something different but I just got upset when that girl posted her auctions and people got mad over it since it wasn't lolita to them, but I was glad she posted it because I got to experience what someone else likes and also get a chance to own something they like. Open-mindedness = good. *stops ranting* I don't wish to get on anyone's bad side. :o/

Date: 2004-01-15 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loli-miyoko.livejournal.com
Oh and, everyone else is right, punctuation and spelling is a little off but I forgive cause God knows I can't type right half the time. lol.

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Date: 2004-01-15 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliechan.livejournal.com
Um... the term "neo-gothic" is what we like to call Engrish. The Japanese made it up because it sounds cooler than "goshikku." "neo-goshikku" is by far better sounding and makes the fashion so much more hardcore. I guarantee you it has nothing to do with new age 18th century architecture.

Haha... Lolita Geurillas... we hide amidst the clothing racks, ready to whack you with our parasols of d00m!

I... am so confused as to what your point is.

Date: 2004-01-15 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazelasher.livejournal.com
Haha... Lolita Geurillas... we hide amidst the clothing racks, ready to whack you with our parasols of d00m!

BWAHAHAHA! That's going in the AIM profile tonight!

*falls on floor*

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Date: 2004-01-15 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjapope.livejournal.com
Well, I guess I'll just add to the carnage.

Dude, holy crap. What the hell? Look, go and get a damn dictionary right now and look up "analisim". Notice how IT'S NOT THERE!?! Yeah, sorry, I'm a really angry guy sometimes. But seriously, you don't need big words to get a point across. And I definetely could have done without the "Quick History" or whatever the crap that was. I think you're merely trying to back something up so that you can at least make an attempt at looking somewhat intelligent. But if you want to look intelligent, you don't have to post like this. Use something you thought up, not the old repeated crap that everyone posts. BE ORIGINAL DAMMIT! Or if you can't do that, then at least add something interesting thing to your post, not some stupid thing about "we should all do this because I'm pretending to be smart". If I wanted history, I'd go watch my damn TV.

Thank you for your time. Good day to you, man-bitch.

Date: 2004-01-16 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocococious.livejournal.com
... I would have sympathised with the fact that you seem to have decided to become an intellectual, were it not for the fact that, even upon the third time trying to read your post, I still cannot manage to find any sort of point in your "analizisms". Did you mean by that something to do with some sort of analysis, or just want us to think of you as intelligent? Frankly, I really hope it was neither, and just a typo ... otherwise, I think you failed, quite bitterly. No offense meant by that, of course. -.-

Spurting out all of that and then telling us that we're being "curt, short-talied and offensive" could class you as a hypocrite, my dear, very easily. Maybe all of that does happen here from time to time - but if you're going to trail off on made-up History lectures based on subjects that, really, most educated people should really know ... well, I'm sure you can see my point, here?

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." That just seemed fitting ...

Date: 2004-01-16 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebraphenia.livejournal.com
hahahaha....
I don't know if any of you noticed..........
But the person who STARTED this off....
HASN'T REPLIED ONCE...
Just shhh and leave them be
and let's go back to the nice community that used to be a pleasure to visit.
:)

Date: 2004-01-16 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horsey5588.livejournal.com
What if that person has a job/school and can't post until they are off?

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Date: 2004-01-16 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyu-sakura.livejournal.com
BEST COMMUNITY DRAMA EVER

This doesn't even make sense guys! I give up!

Date: 2004-01-16 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkshadelily.livejournal.com
I just had to say I absolutely LOVED;

"Good day to you, Man-bitch."

XD
-dies laughing-

Date: 2004-01-16 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xostrawberryxo.livejournal.com
This defenitly beats the stirr up in the kmfdmdotcom journal that started out, "You are all posers!"

86 comments? Wow. Is that a record?

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Date: 2004-01-16 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropigalia.livejournal.com
except for there already is a noun for it: "analysis".


you know, every person who makes a mistake and instigates a fight always says they were "just doing it to see how we'd respond". how hard is to admit you made a mistake and apologize? if you're a pompous jerk for fun, then you're in the wrong anyway and shouldn't bother trying to cover up your ass.

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Date: 2004-01-17 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otaku-val-chan.livejournal.com
Um, hi..? I didn't really take the time to read through this pile of...whatever it is, but the fact that it was as crummy as it was, and it still recieved a whopping 100-something comments is ...both astounding and utterly ridiculous.

I wish there was as much action in the community on non-controversial posts as there was as much energy spent in wars and flames like these. I'm growing so tired of the arguing.

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