[identity profile] realsilicon.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] egl_archive
check out my ebay auctions! (help a poor college student with her fees pretty please!)

cute gothic lolita/fruits japanese top sz XL/14
cross back straps white sleeveless top sz L/12





cross-posted like whoa!

Date: 2003-11-14 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinablue.livejournal.com
*blink* Those aren't even gothic...let alone lolita. 0.o

Date: 2003-11-14 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calliechan.livejournal.com
Much agreed. ::nodnod::

Date: 2003-11-14 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clarice.livejournal.com
STOP posting this %)(#*% ugly, VERY non EGL stuff in our community!

Do you have ANY respect for the opinions and wishes of those who are actually active in this community?!

Date: 2003-11-14 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] junnokoneko.livejournal.com
I dont think there was a need to be so rude and impolite...
it may not be EGL at all in any sense but that I don't think with a comment like that any ebay auction problems will be solved.

Date: 2003-11-15 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pejabunnie.livejournal.com
I am a firm believer in being fair and rational as well, but sometimes you just can't be polite anymore.

There are lots of people who pop into this community and post links to their auctions, which are so far from egl it's not even funny anymore. I don't mind things that are relevant, but when your friends posts are so clotted with garbage, you've just got to lose your temper sometimes...We all do it sooner or later.

I understand your point, but wouldn't you agree it's extremely rude and impolite for THEM to peddle their irrelevant unwanted goods here?

Not trying to stir up a fight, darlin'...just providing a POV from someone who is also sick to death of icky non-egl stuff.

Date: 2003-11-15 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] junnokoneko.livejournal.com
Well of course Im sick to death of it too, why do you think I hopped somewhere else? ^^
My point is.. it just seems to be a bit useless. ^^; To become mad and angry and fly off the wall isn't going to do much but just make the offender feel cornered you know? Like "Whatever?? Uhm kthnxbye." and usually continue to post auctions that don't quite fit here (This being so if the person posting the auction even notices the comments, which it seems they don't at least 80% of the time! We have a lot of spam and runners, if you will). How seriously would you take someone who yelled at you? ^^;
Of course I can't offer any proven solution to this problem, or make it just *poof* disappear, but I can ask though: shouldn't we just take a lolita approach? Instead of leaving flaming-esque comments on a post they more than likely will not look back on, if one *really* had a serious problem with the auctions, one could always email them and tell them. 50/50 chance they might listen, 50/50 they might not, but I think if one went about it in a civil manner results might differ.
Thats just me of course. Be the better loli here! As much as it angers me to no end that this poor community must endure random spam non EGL auctions, anger will get a person nowhere.
No harm taken. ^_^


Date: 2003-11-15 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pejabunnie.livejournal.com
Sadly, I think civility will get you no further than anger will!Bleh, they're not worth emailing I think...but you're right, there is no clear solution.

I do see your point about cornering. And I suppose they could get defensive if they read comments that were angry or hateful, but they don't really have a legitimate reason to be so if they are spamming and have no right anyway. But I was concerned since chiding a fellow loli for losing her temper could create a defensive situation too, and that's worse because it's internal.

I just don't want lollies turning against each other when we all have a collective hate of the "spam and run types." I have a feeling that she was just venting, rather than expecting a post from the auction person saying "Oh, sorry, let me remove my irrelevant post from your community." (Oh, how nice that would be if it worked that way!)

Well anyway you look at it it's a moot point. And here we are weaving a whole mini discussion about it. (^^) I figure they most likely didn't see her comment. And if they did it's not going to change things. And although us loli's conduct ourselves with proper decorum most of the time, sometimes our black sides just get the best of us! (^^) It may not always be the best way, but unfortunately, we're human and therefore, stupid. Heh.

Appreciate the mini debate. Despite our differing views, good to see we can agree on the fundamentals...as in: Spam sucks! (^^)

Date: 2003-11-15 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agitatorswaltz.livejournal.com
I think what Cori's trying to say is that it's useless to waste our anger on someone who 80% of the time is not going to look back at our comments, and keep "spam and run"-ing here anyway.

I know we're all sick of it, I know we are. But if everytime someone posts something non-EGL, or remotely Gothic & Lolita at all, and we go, "OMFG THAT IS SO NOT LOLI OMG aeofuhyaleidf!!!oneoneone!! U TEH SUXX0RZ!! *swear word swear word*" ..what is that going to make us look like? Definitely not the better Lolita.

And for someone who'll never notice, it's also a lost cause to direct the anger here, in the comments, hence the "more Lolita approach" to it, like e-mailing them and let them know, that it's not appreciated here, otherwise they don't know (or care) and will keep spamming. One never knows, if a bunch of people did e-mailed, there could be change. It just depends on how one wants to handle it, does one want to become angry to a non-listening party, and then come off as an angry, rude, person to everyone else? Or be the better Loli and handle it in a better way?

Although everyone loses their top sometimes, it's useless and wasted energy to vent it at someone who'll never notice here in the comments, and just makes the community look like a big, angry mob. If everyone agrees that yes, we hate spam (and we do), we should all agree to at least be civil about it, instead of wasting our anger at someone who'll never see these comments. Even if idiots keep spamming, (and they will,) at least we'll come off as the better.

Date: 2003-11-16 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pejabunnie.livejournal.com
Yes, I understood and respected her points. We were having a very civilized discussion, and although we didn't work out any solutions, it was nice to banter.

That's nice you want to have her back, but it was completely unnecessary, seeing as that she made herself completely clear, and that doesn't change the fact that we agreed to disagree.

Date: 2003-11-16 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] junnokoneko.livejournal.com
No no.. o.o
She summed up for me what I couldn't quite say. ^^
I didn't quite really feel I was that clear, so Im glad she said something. ^^ Really though, none of this wouldve been necessary had the original comment not been made and in turn the ebay auctions not been posted. -_-;;; ergh

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